That 1 John 3:2 refers to Jesus shows He is God.
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That 1 John 3:2 refers to Jesus shows He is God.
Actually the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation, it is within you. Luke 17:20-21. See Matt 3:16, this is how God comes to man and gives His gift to be like Him, which simply is Love. Jesus was no exception for received the same as those before him and after him.
God is a Spirit and that Spirit is Love and man is the temple of God. Spirit = Mind and the state of it and either one has His same mind and walks in it as Jesus did and others did -- or one doesnt. And everyone knows very well off they are like Him or not as He demands of us if we are to have His same mind, Spirit!
The created angels properly worshiped the Lord Jesus which proves He is God.
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Because I didn't understand what you were saying....If we were in a small group discussion..I would have lookedat you and said...What???
Actually they worshiped the Spirit of God who was in that man. So do I so did Jesus. The very Spirit that came to him and reveals to Jesus who He is and opens up all of who He is and Hos heaven to Jesus. You can read that in Matt 3:16. he obeyed and calls God his Father. Which is mine as well. He is supposed to be in you was well.
you don’t know the God Jesus obeyed and prayed to and said sent him to show you His way to walk as He does on His same light as Jesus did do you? And is not the reason you worship a man as a gods instead of the God who came to that man and revealed Himself and who He is.
When you see Him as He is as Jesus did ye shall be like Him as well. 1 john3.
The kingdom of God doesn’t come with observation as you view God as a man. The kingdom of God is within you just as He was in Jesus. Or is supposed to be in you. Luke 17 :20-21.
Which means they worshiped Jesus.
No -- which means they worshipped the same Spirit of God who was in that man. The One Jesus obeyed and prayed to and said sent him to show you the way to Him that ye may be like Him and perfect even as God in heaven is perfect, walk as He walks in His same light as Jesus did.
Jesus was very clear that he could do noting at all without his God who sent him.
Jesus didn't even know God or His heaven until God came to Him by the Spirit that He is and opened up all of who He is and His heaven to Jesus. Matt 3:16 is very clear what happened in Jesus by God Himself. This is the ones we all worship who has received the same, the one Jesus worshiped and obeyed. Jesus referred to his enlightenment by God as born again, a new heaven and earth is revealed in us all who receives the same as Jesus did from God.
Jesus was Gods child just as we all are who has the same Father who is a Spirit. I am His son, His child no different from what Jesus was in our God we call Father.
Read Jesus prayer to the One he did worship and obeyed in John 17 that he prayed to his God he called father to be in you and you be in Him as one as He was in Jesus and Jesus was in Him as one. See the One Jesus prayed top in his trials and tribulations, Father let this cup pass from me, Father forgive then they know not what they do.
This is the One obviously you have not met, the One Jesus worshiped as his Father, the same One that I do for He is manifest in me just as He was manifest in Jesus no different any all. He is supposed to be manifest in you as well and if He was you would know God is not a man, He is not flesh, no flesh inherits Gods kingdom it is a spiritual kingdom. It doesnt come with observation, Jesus was clear that Spirit doesnt have flesh and bone as you see me. Speaking of the Spirit within.
Which is worshiping Jesus.
Talk about the OP.
They bowed in obesiance to their appointed king, they did not bow in worship. Fact--Jesus wouldnt have to be appointed as king of Gods kingdom if he were God. God is king of eternity, Nor would he have to hand the kingdom back to his God and Father and subject himself( forever) 1Cor 15:24-28--if he were God. Your bibles are filled with error-The OP proves it to be 100% fact.
The other poster cited a passage and I have the right to ask for clarification.
Don't tell me what to do, heretic.
The Watchtower: the angels of God are instructed to "worship" the glorified Jesus. (Questions From Readers, May 15, 1954, page 318)
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1954369
It's great to see how you and the Watchtower contradict each other even though you claim to be a Jehovah's Witness.
You cant answer the bibles truth. You can see 100% your religion is wrong according to the 2 passages in the OP. Because your translations teach 2 different truths because they are erred. Eternal life is on the line.
That isnt taught anymore--its easy to keep up to date-JW.org. You refuse. you remain in darkness. If you ever read the prophecy in Ezekial you find--truth starts as a shallow stream and eventually grows into a deep water--it has.
Because even there they still contradict themselves.
- Did Jesus teach he was GOD himself?
If you want to quote from us, quote from there. www.jw.org The boldface below is mine. Colossians 3:20 You children, be obedient to your parents in everything, for this is well-pleasing to the Lord. (New World Translation)...
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No which is worshiping the same God who came to Jesus and opened up who He is and all of His heaven to that man. See Matt 3:16. Jesus didn't even know God or His heaven until God was manifest in him. You can read it but not very many believe what they read do they?
We are exactly the same, you cant know who God is at all until He Himself comes and opens Himself in you just as He did in Jesus, in Adam who wast the rest to know God and became like Him, Gen 3:22, Abraham received the same God and worshiped Him as Jesus did and obeyed Him, Moses worshiped God and obeyed and became like Him, Jesus did the same in Matt 3:16, 120 did the same in an upper room.
You are worshiping the created instead of the creator.
They dont contradict themselves. So please explain the teaching at Heb 1:3-4 where it clearly shows that if Jesus didnt inherit a name better than the angels, he was equal with them as Psalm 45:7 also shows.
They can't figure out if the "Lord" in Colossians 3:20 refers to their creator or to their creature-jesus.
Its you who doesnt understand some passages have other meanings beside what it looks like. Like 1Cor 8:6--one Lord Jesus, but in verse 5 it says there are many Lords.
Why cant you answer the truth shown in the OP?
The JW's have a contradictory meaning as to the identification of the Lord in Colossians 3:20.
I already did in post 19,